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Tests in order by Grams: Premiumized means sugar

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject: Tests in order by Grams: Premiumized means sugar Reply with quote

An easy way to separate the pure from the altered...

Special Note: this is a special sorting of the Master List in order of amount of sugar found by test. It may NOT be reproduced (the Master List can be, as detailed there). It includes tests from ALKO, the Swedes, Drejer, Cyril, Pirate, dawsonh, Cyril and Moi.

This list is organized from "0" sugar to, gulp (227g) in order, simply to demonstrate two facts: first, that almost half the rums tested for no or very little sugar (reassuring), while a bit over half are significantly altered with secret sugaring - and second, that it is the PREMIUM rums that are much more likely to be so altered and with much, much more sugar (say 30-45g/L).


To find your rum, please consult the Master List: a single alphabetical list, here:
http://rumproject.com/rumforum//viewtopic.php?t=1683

Do not bother looking up your rum here anymore, as only the Master List will be kept updated!!!

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Grams.......Rum

    0 1931 (2nd Edition) St Lucia Distillers (43%): 0
    0 Admiral Rodney Finest St Lucia Rum: 0
    0 Ancient Mariner (Caroni 16 Year): 0
    0 Appleton Estate 12: 0-5
    0 Appleton Estate 21 (2011): 0-5
    0 Appleton Estate Extra 12yr: 0
    0 Appleton Estate Reserve (8 Year Old): 0
    0 Appleton Estate V/X: 0
    0 Appleton Special: 0
    0 Appleton White: 0
    0 Bacardi Gold: 0
    0 Bacardi Heritage 1909 45%: 0
    0 Bacardi Heritage 1909 45%: 0
    0 Bacardi Superior: 0
    0 Bacardi Superior: 0-5
    0 Baltic Light: 0/0
    0 Bardinet Negrita White: 0/0
    0 Barra Oak Bay Dark: 0/2
    0 Bermudez 1852 Aniversario: 0
    0 Berrys´ Own Selection Finest Jamaican Rum 1990: 0
    0 Berrys´ Own Selection Finest Nicaraguan Rum 1999: 0
    0 Blackwell Fine Jamaican: 0
    0 Boero Reserva Especial: 0-5
    0 Braunstein Sankt Croix: 0
    0 Bristol Classis Rum Caroni 1974: 0
    0 Bristol Classis Rum Caroni 1996: 0
    0 Bristol Classis Rum Fine Barbados Rum 2003: 0
    0 Bristol Classis Rum Jamaican Rum 2002: 0
    0 Bristol Port Morant 1990 (Port Finish): 0
    0 Brugal Anejo: 0-5
    0 Cadenhead's 1824 Special Single Cask Demerara Rum: 0
    0 Cadenhead's Dark (50%): 0
    0 Cane Trader Dark Rum: 0
    0 Captain Bligh XO Reserve: 0
    0 Captain Morgan White: 0
    0 Captain Morgan: 0/4
    0 Caroni 12 Year Old (Velier): 0
    0 Chairman's Reserve The Forgotten Casks: 0
    0 Chairman's Reserve White Label: 0
    0 Chairman's Reserve: 0
    0 Chairman's Reserve: 0
    0 Chamarel Single Barrel 2008 (45%): 0
    0 Clement 6 yr: 0/3
    0 Clement Rhum Blanc: 0
    0 Cockspur 12: 0
    0 Coruba 18y: 0
    0 Cruzan Single Barrel Estate (Older bottle): 0
    0 Damoiseau 1953: 0
    0 Damoiseau Rhum Vieux 8 anos: 2 (0-4)
    0 Damoiseau VO: 0
    0 Danica Rum: 0
    0 Diamond Reserve (DDL, white, 40%): 0
    0 Dictador 12 yr: 0-5
    0 Dictador 12: 0
    0 Dictador 20 yr: 0
    0 Domaine de Severin 1984: 0
    0 Doorly's 12: 0
    0 Doorly's 5 Year: 0
    0 Doorly's XO: 0
    0 Edward Gunpowder Spiced: 0
    0 El Dorado Single Barrel EHP: 0
    0 El Dorado Single Barrel PM: 0
    0 Elements 8 Gold Rum: 0
    0 Fair Rum du Belize: 0/0
    0 Flor de Cana 7 Year: 0
    0 Foursquare Port Cask: 0
    0 Havana Club Seleccion de Maestro: 0
    0 Holey Dollar Rum Silver Coin: 0
    0 HSE 1998 Single Cask 1998: 2.5
    0 Huracan Anejo Reserva: 0/2
    0 Isautier 15 anos: 0
    0 John Milroy, Finest Jamaican Rum 26y Rare old rum: 0
    0 Karukera Double Maturation 2004/2012 (44,1%): 0
    0 L'Esprit Bellevue 98/2010 (46%):
    0 La Hechicera: 0
    0 La Mauny Blanc circa 70's 50% : 0
    0 La Mauny VO: 0
    0 Lalvaromni Alpo: 0/0
    0 Long Pond 1993 18yr: 2
    0 Matusalem 15 Year Old Solera Blender: 0 (vanilla, prunes)
    0 Mezan Guyana Uitvluigt: 0
    0 Mezan Jamaica 2003: 0
    0 Mezan Panama 1995: 0
    0 Mount Gay 1703: 0
    0 Mount Gay Black Barrel: 0
    0 Mount Gay Eclipse (Gold):0
    0 Mount Gilboa: 0
    0 Noordbo Handelen - Fiji 2003: 0
    0 Old Jamaica 1982: 0
    0 Old Nick Caribbean White: 0/0
    0 Old Pascas Dark: 0/2
    0 Old Port Rum: 0
    0 Paulsen Collection: 0
    0 Phraya: 0
    0 Pusser's Super Overproof (German only): 0-1
    0 Renegade Jamaica (Monymusk): 0-5
    0 Rhum Courvilles 45% : 0
    0 Rhum Dillon 1975: 0
    0 Rhum Isautier 15 yo: 0
    0 Rhum J.M. 2000: 0
    0 Rhum J.M. Vieux: 0-5
    0 Rhum J.M. Vieux: 0/2
    0 Rhum Negrita Bardinet: 0
    0 Rhum Negrita: 0/1 (latest listing)
    0 Rhum Trois Rivières 1953 (45%): 0
    0 Rhum Vieux ALDI 6yo (40%): 0
    0 RhumRhum Liberation 2000: 0
    0 Richland Rum: 0
    0 Rommivlena: 0/1
    0 Ron Cabana Blanco: 0/0
    0 Ron Centenario Commemorativo: 0
    0 Ron Maestro Botero Reserva Especial: 0
    0 Ron Medellin 8y: 0
    0 Ron Pampero Blanco: 0
    0 Ron Viejo de Caldas Gran Reserva Especial: 0
    0 Ron Yacare: 0
    0 Rum Club LD: 0
    0 Sainsbury's Golden Rum 8 Year: 0
    0 Sainsbury's Superior Dark: 0
    0 Samaroli Nicaragua 1995: 0
    0 Santa Teresa 1796: 0
    0 Santa Teresa Claro: 0
    0 Savanna Lontan 7 anos: 0
    0 Savanna Millenium 15 anos: 0
    0 Scarlet Ibis, 2/3 full: 0
    0 Scarlet Ibis: 0
    0 Secret Treasures Old Guadeloupe 1992: 0
    0 Séverin 1984 (45%): 0
    0 Silver Seal Dennery (St Lucia): 0
    0 Smith & Cross: 0
    0 Smith & Cross: 0
    0 St. James Heritage: 0/1
    0 St. James Reserve Premium: 0/0
    0 The Real McCoy 12 yr: 0
    0 Trois Rievieres 1999: 0
    0 Trois Rivieres 1953: 0
    0 Velier Albion 17y 1994: 0
    0 Velier Blairmont: 0
    0 Velier Caroni 1974: 6
    0 Velier Enmore 1987: 0
    0 Velier Enmore 1993: 0-3
    0 Velier Liberation 2000: 0
    0 Velier Port Mourant 1993: 0
    1 Angostura Cask No. 1: 32
    1 Baltic Dark: 0/1
    1 Brugal Extra Viejo Reserva: 1
    1 Calidao Original Jamaican Dark: 1
    1 Caribbean Reserve, Enmore distillery Demerara 1998: 1
    1 Caroni Trinity: 1/1
    1 La Hechicere: 1
    1 La Mauny XO: 1
    1 Mezan Panama 1999: 1
    1 Penny Blue XO (4th batch): 1
    1 Rhum J.M. Vieux 1997: 1
    1 Rum Nation Martinique 12yr: 1
    1 Rum Nr. 7 Black: 1/6
    1 Velier Enmore 1995 16y: 1
    2 1931 (1st Edition) St Lucia Distillers (43%): 2
    2 Bacardi Superior: 2
    2 Bank's 5 Island: 2
    2 Berrys' Caribbean Rum 12: <3
    2 Bristol Diamond Distillery 1998: 2
    2 Brugal Anejo: 2
    2 Brugal Especial Dry: 2
    2 Cacique: 2
    2 Clement VSOP: 2
    2 Cockspur Fine Rum (5 star): 2
    2 Depaz Grande Reserve XO: 2
    2 Doorly's XO, new: 2
    2 El Dorado 3 Year Old: 2
    2 Havana Club 3 yr: 2
    2 HSE Blanc: 2
    2 HSE Single Malt Finish: 2
    2 HSE XO: 2
    2 Juuls Ping No.9 Jamaica 1977 36y: 2
    2 Kobra Libre: 2/3
    2 La Favorite cuvee du chateau 2000: 2
    2 La Mauny 1994: 2
    2 Moon Import Enmore (EHP) 94/2001, 46° sherry port: 2
    2 Mount Gay Extra Old: 2
    2 Pampero Anejo Especial: 2
    2 Prichard's Fine Rum: 2
    2 R.L. Seales 10y: 2
    2 Renegade Barbados (Blackrock): 2
    2 Rhum Clement single cask Vanille Intense: 2
    2 Rhum Damoiseau 8 yo: 2
    2 Rhum J.M. Cuvee 1845: 2
    2 Rhum Reimonenq 2008: 2
    2 Rum Nation Jamaica 8y 2015 Oloroso finish: 2
    2 Sea Wynde: 2
    2 Takanaka St André 8yo (40%) : 2
    2 Trois Rivieres 5yr: 2
    2 Velier Enmore and Port Mourant 1998: 2
    2 Velier Port Mourant 17y 1997: 2
    2 Velier Port Mourant 1997: 2
    2 Velier UF30E 1985: 2
    3 Akaya Organic White: <3
    3 Appleton Estate Extra 12 yr: 3
    3 Appleton Estate Extra 12: <3
    3 Appleton Estate Extra 12: 3/0
    3 Bacardi Superior: 3
    3 Bacardi Superior:<3
    3 Bardinet Negrita Dark: 3/0
    3 Barracuda Rum Silver: <3
    3 Barracuda Rum: 3
    3 Berry's Caribbean 12 yr: 3/0
    3 Bristol Classis Rum Port Morant Demerara 1999: 3
    3 Brugal 1888 Gran Reserva Familiar: 3
    3 Brugal 1888: 3
    3 Captain Morgan (Jamaica): 3
    3 Dictador XO Perpetual: 3
    3 Dillon Très Vieux Rhum: <3
    3 Dillon Tres Vieux: 3/0
    3 Doorly's XO: 3
    3 Havana Club Añejo 3: 3
    3 Havana Club Anejo Blanco: 3/3
    3 Havana Club Añejo Reserva: 3
    3 Havana Club Blanco: 3
    3 Holy Spirit Sweden Rock: 3
    3 La Favorite (rhum) 30 & 35 yr: 45
    3 La Favorite coeur de rhum: 2.5
    3 Matusalem Solera 7: <3
    3 Negrita Dark: <3gr
    3 Negrita Dark: 3
    3 Old Monk Supreme: 3
    3 Renegade Guyana (PM): 3
    3 Rhum J.M. Multimillesime: 2.5
    3 Ron Matusalem Gran Reserva 15 yr: 3/0
    3 Santa Teresa Anejo: 3
    3 Tilverkas (DR): 3
    3 Velier MG 9 anos: 2.5
    3 Velier Port Mourant 1975: 3
    4 Barbancourt Five Star: 4
    4 Barbancourt Three Star, ¾ full: 4
    4 Barbancourt White, ¾ full: <4
    4 Brugal 1888 Gran Reserva Sherry Oak: 4
    4 Brugal Especial: 4
    4 Clement Single Cask Vanille Intense: 4
    4 Conch Republic Dark Rum: 4
    4 Dictador XO Insolent: 4
    4 El Dorado Single Barrel ICBU: 4
    4 G&P Dormoy Hors d'Age: 6.5
    4 Havana Club 3 yr: 4
    4 Havana Club 3 yr: 4/4
    4 Havana Club Añejo 7: 4
    4 Havana Club Anejo Reserva: 4/5
    4 Kirk & Sweeney 40% (vanilla bomb), 2/3 full: <4
    4 La Mauny Vieux 1995: 4
    4 Lost Spirits Navy Style: 4
    4 St. James 15 yr.: 4
    4 Velier Courcelles 1972 : 4
    5 Barcelo Gran Anejo: 5
    5 Botran 12 Year: 5
    5 Brugal Especial (old): 5
    5 E.S.A. Field: 5
    5 La Mauny Extra Saphir: 5
    5 Matusalem 15: 5 (added vanilla, prunes)
    5 Matusalem Platino: 5
    5 Ron Barcelo Gran Anejo: 5/0
    5 Ron Botran Solera 1893 (old): 5
    5 Ron Matusalem Gran Reserva 15 yr: 5
    5 Santiago de Cuba 25 yr: 5
    5 Tanduay 1854: 5
    5 Trois Rivieres 8yr: 5
    5 Westerhall Superb Light Rum: 5
    6 Bacardi Reserva: 6/6
    6 Barbancourt 15, 2/3 full: 6
    6 Barbancourt Five Star, <1/2 full: 6
    6 Barbancourt Five Star: 6
    6 Berrys´ Reserve Demerara Rum 1975 (Port Morant): 6
    6 Biele Rhum Vieux Hors d Age: 5-8
    6 Cadenhead AWM: 6
    6 Clement Single Cask Tres Vieux Bleu: 6
    6 Havana Club 7 yr: 6/7
    6 La Mauny Extra Rubis: 6
    6 Lundu Silver: 6
    6 Old Salt Rum: 6
    6 Olokan: 6
    6 Pusser's Blue 75%: 6
    6 Pusser's Blue Label (40%): 6
    6 Pusser's Red 42%: 6
    6 Ron de Jeremy: 6/6
    6 Santa Teresa 1796 (new bottle): 6-7
    6 Tiburon Rum: 6
    6 Velier Caroni 1994: 0
    7 Berrys´ Caribbean Rum XO: 7
    7 Bielle rhum vieux hors d'age 50cl. circa 80's: 6.5 (5-8.)
    7 Brugal Anejo Reserva: 7
    7 Brugal Anejo: 7
    7 Brugal Extra Viejo: 7
    7 Brugal Ron Extra Viejo: 7
    7 Chantal Comte Tour de l'Or: 7
    7 Diplomatico 8 yr: 7
    7 Diplomatico Reserva: 7/0
    7 Diplomatico Reserva: 7/0
    7 Havana Club Seleccion de Maestro: 7
    7 Ocumare: 7
    7 Pusser's Gunpowder (54.5%): 7
    7 Rhum Hors d'Âge G&P Dormoy: 7
    8 Bacardi Black: 8
    8 Barbancourt 15, very old, nearly empty: 8-9
    8 Barbancourt Five Star: 8
    8 Brugal Siglo de Oro: 8
    8 Dictador 20 yr: 8
    8 Diplomatico Blanco Reserve: 8
    8 El Dorado 8 yr: 8 (see Drejer, above)
    8 Havana Club 15 yr: 8
    8 Havana Club Anejo 15: 8
    8 Havana Club Union: 8
    8 Lost Spirits Navy Style Rum: 8
    8 Ypioca Prata: 8
    9 Botran Solera 1893: 9
    9 Botran Solera 1893: 9/0
    9 Diplomatico Reserva: 9
    9 Diplomatico Reserva: 9
    9 El Dorado 5 yr, ½ full: 9
    9 Medela Organic: 9/9
    9 Plantation Trinidad 1997 Single Cask: 9
    9 Ron Botran Solera 1893 (new): 9
    9 Rum Nation Jamaica 1985 25y: 9
    10 1423 3rd Edt. Panama 17y: 10
    10 La Favorite cuvee Filibuste: 10
    10 Lemon Hart 151 (Mosaiq): 10
    10 Mambacho 15 yr: 10
    10 Mombacho Ron 15 year: 10
    10 Ron Bodega 1800 No 6: 10
    10 Rum Nation Jamaica 1985 25 yr: 10
    11 Barbados Rommi: 11/12
    11 Brugal XV: 11
    11 Goslings Black Seal: 11/11
    11 HSE 1960 (AOC): 11
    11 HSE Single Cask Extra Vieux 1998 Cognac finish: 11
    11 Rum Club PG (Pungent & Geeky): 11
    12 Bacardi 8yr: 12
    12 Biele Rhum Vieux (circa 1980): 10-14
    12 Bielle Rhum Vieux 1980's 50%: 12
    12 Brugal 1888: 12
    12 Diplomatico Reserva: 12
    12 El Dorado 5 yr: 12
    12 English Harbor 1981 25 Year: 12
    12 English Harbour Rum 1981: 12
    12 Havana Club Extra Maximo: 12
    12 Ocean's Atlantic Edition: 12
    12 Pampero Aniversario Exclusiva: 12
    12 Plantation Dark (Trinidad & Tobago): 12
    12 Plantation Jamaica 1992 Single Cask: 12
    13 Angostura 1919: 13
    13 Angostura 1919: 13
    13 Mekhong Thai Spirit: 13
    13 Plantation Trinidad 1999 Single Cask Sherry: 13
    14 Angostura 1919: 14
    14 Angostura 1919: 14/0
    14 Bacardi Carta Negra: 14
    14 Havana Club Union: 14
    14 Montecristo 12y: 14
    14 Papa's Pilar 24 Dark Rum: 14
    14 Plantation Nicaragua 2001: 14
    14 Rum Club DA (Dark & Aged): 14
    14 Santa Teresa 1796 (old bottle, 3/4 empty, recorked): 14-15
    15 Abuelo 7 Year Old: 15
    15 Bacardi Black: 15/16
    15 Bacardi Reserva :Limitada: 15
    15 Bacardi Reserva Limitada: 15
    15 Bristol Classis Rum Rockley Still 1986 (Sherry Finish): 15
    15 Diplomatico 2000: 15
    15 El Dorado 8 yr: 15
    15 Goslings Old Grand Reserve: 15
    15 Ron Abuelo 7 Year Old: 15
    15 Rum Club PG: 15
    16 Bristol Spiced Rum: 16
    16 Cachaça 51: 16
    16 El Dorado 21 yr: 16
    16 Havana Club Maximo: 16
    16 Old Salt Rum: 16
    16 Origenes 18: 16
    16 Plantation Grenada 2003 Old Reserve: 16
    16 Plantation Guyana 1988 Single Cask: 16
    16 Plantation Jamaica 2000 Old Reserve: 16
    16 Ron Barcelo Imperial: 16
    16 Ron Pampero Anniversary: 16
    16 Rum Club SR: 16
    16 Velier LBI 1985: 16
    17 Angostura 1824: 17/17
    17 Bacardi Gran Reserva: 17
    17 Havana Club Anejo Especial (New Formula): 17
    17 Lemon Hart Demerara: 17
    17 Plantation Barbados 15 yr Single Cask Sherry: 17
    17 Plantation Guatemala Gran Anejo: 17
    17 Plantation Jamaica 1992 Single Cask Port: 17
    17 Plantation Jamaica 2000: 17/17
    17 Plantation Trinidad 1998 Single Cask Porto: 17
    17 Plantation Trinidad 1999 Single Cask Sherry: 17
    17 Red Leg Spiced: 17
    17 Ron Zacapa Centenario Reserva Limitada 2013: 17
    17 XM Special 12 yr: 17
    18 Angostura 1824: 18
    18 Angostura 1824: 18
    18 Arcane Extraroma: 18
    18 Carta Vieja Golden Cask Solera 18: 7
    18 Plantation Grenada 2002: 18/18
    18 Plantation Guadeloupe 1998 Single Cask Sauterne: 18
    18 Plantation Panama 2002 Old Reserve: 18
    18 Plantation Panama 2002: 18/18
    18 Plantation Trinidad Single Cask Marsala: 18
    18 Rum Club DA: 18
    19 Bacardi Gran Reserva (Maestro de Ron): 19
    19 Fortuna 8 yr: 19
    19 Plantation Guatemala XO Single Cask Denmark: 19
    19 Plantation Guyana 2005 Old Reserve: 19
    19 Plantation Trinidad 1999 Single Cask Banyuls: 19
    20 Abuelo Anejo 7 yr: 20
    20 Bacardi 8 yr: 20/20
    20 Bielle 2003: 20
    20 Plantation Belize 7 Single Cask: 20
    20 Plantation Grenada 1998 Old Reserve: 20
    20 Plantation Guatemala Gran Anejo: 20/20
    20 Pusser's Blue 54.5%: 20
    20 Ron Barco 15: 20
    20 Ron Barco: 20
    20 Ron Zacapa Centenario 23: 20/23
    20 Rum Nation Panama 21y: 20
    20 Zaya (Trinidad): 20
    21 Captain Morgan Spiced Gold: 21-22
    21 Diplomatico Single Vintage: 21
    21 Ron Zacapa 23 Sistema Solera: 20.5
    21 Rum Nation Demerara No. 14: 21
    22 Bacardi Spice: 22
    22 Cubaney Centenario: 22
    22 El Dorado 21 Year Old: 22
    22 El Dorado Spiced: 22
    22 Havana Club Especial: 22
    22 Noble Selected: 22
    22 Plantation Barbados Grand Reserve: 22/0
    22 Plantation Gran Reserve Barbados: 22
    22 Ron Zacapa Gran Reserva: 22
    23 Ocean's 7 Mellow: 23
    23 Puntacana Club XOX 50 Anniversary: 23
    24 Diplomatico Single Vintage 2000: 24
    24 Diplomatico Single Vintage 2001: 24
    24 Dzama Nosy-be Prestige: 24
    24 Kaniche XO: 24
    24 M&S Gingerbread: 24 (“likely from Cognac Ferrand”)
    24 Marks & Spencer Gingerbread: 24
    24 Plantation Grenada 1996 Single Cask: 24
    24 Plantation Grenada 1998 Old Reserve: 24
    24 Plantation Jamaica - Guyana 1991 Single Cask: 24
    24 Plantation XO 20th Anniversary: 24
    24 Pyrat XO Reserve: 24
    24 Pyrat XO Reserve: 24
    24 Pyrat XO Reserve: 24
    26 Atlantico Private Cask: 26
    26 Bermudez1852 Aniversario 12 Anos: 26
    26 Diplomatico Ambassador: 26
    26 Don Papa: 26-29
    26 Kraken Spiced: 26
    26 Reimonenq RQL: 26
    26 Ron Zacapa Centenario XO: 26
    26 Ron Zacapa XO (newer wide bottle, taper to top): 26
    26 Ron Zacapa XO: 26
    26 Ron Zacapa XO: 26
    26 Rum Company 10 yr: 26
    26 Selvarey Cacao: 26
    27 Abuelo Anejo: 27
    27 Abuelo Centuria: 27
    27 Pusser's 15 yr: 27
    28 Ron Zacapa Centenario Etiqueta Negra: 28
    28 Vizcaya VXOP “21” (not years): 28
    29 Abuelo Anejo 12 yr: 29
    29 Opthimus 15 OportO: 29
    29 Plantation 20th Anniversary: 29
    29 Plantation 20th Anniversary: 29/0
    29 Professor Cornelius Ampleforth's Rumbullion: 29
    29 Pusser's 15 yr: 29
    29 Pyrat Pistol: 29
    29 Pyrat XO Reserve: 29
    30 Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva: 30
    31 El Dorado 15 Year Old Finest Demerara Rum: 31
    31 El Dorado 15 Years: 31
    32 Angostura No. 1: 32
    33 El Dorado 21 yr: 33
    34 Origenes 25 Malt Whisky finish (Tomatin): 34
    34 Ron Quorhum 30 yr: 34
    35 El Dorado 12 yr: 35
    35 El Dorado 12 yr: 35/39
    35 El Dorado 15 yr: 35/0
    36 Dos Maderas PX 5+5: 36
    38 El Dorado 15 yr: 38
    38 Ron Zacapa (old, woven straw band only): 38
    38 Ron Zacapa Centenario Sistema Solera 23: 38
    39 Dos Maderas Luxus: 39
    39 El Dorado 12 Year Old Finest Demerara Rum: 39
    39 El Dorado 25 1986: 39
    39 Plantation Trinidad 1989 Single Cask Abel: 39
    41 Chairman's Reserve Spiced: 41
    41 Diplomatico Exclusiva: 41/0
    41 Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva: 41
    41 Diplomático Reserva Exclusiva: 41
    41 Ron Zacapa Centenario XO Premio Platino: 41
    41 Ron Zacapa Gran Reserva: 41
    41 Ron Zacapa Gran Reserva: 41/0
    41 Ron Zacapa XO (old wide bottle, bottom taper): 41
    42 Ron Millonario Solera 15 yr: 42
    43 Pusser's Decanter John Paul Jones: 43!
    44 Diplomatico Exclusiva: 44
    44 Ron Centenario 30 yr: 44
    44 Ron Millonario XO: 44
    45 Captain Morgan Private Stock: 45
    45 Coyopa 12y: 45
    45 La Favorite (rhum) 20 yr: 49
    45 La Favorite cuvee Privilege: 45
    45 Pyrat XO Reserve Planters Gold: 45
    45 Ron Zacapa (very old complete straw wrap): 45
    45 Ron Zacapa Black Label: 45
    46 Ron Quorhum Solera 23: 46
    46 Ron Quorhum: 46
    46 Ron Quorum Solera 23 yr: 46/0
    47 Presidente 23: 47
    48 A.H.Riise XXO Port Cask Finish: 48
    49 La Favorite cuvee des Cavistes: 49
    51 El Dorado 25 1980: 51
    66 A.H.Riise Royal Danish Navy Rom: >66
    74 Dark Matter Spiced: 74!
    85 A.H.Riise Non-Plus Ultra Very Rare Rum: 85
    92 Bacardi Carta Fuego Red Spice: 92!
    92 Rochester Rum and Raisin: 92
    93 Bacardi Grand Melon: 93
    94 Bacardi Mojito: 94
    96 Captain Morgan Long Island Iced Tea: 96
    99 Tegner and Son Punsch: 99
    162 Blossa Trestjärnig Glögg: 162
    211 Pina Colada Gran Bavero: 211
    227 Facile Punsch: 227



Dave Russell's Rum Gallery

Note: Dave was perhaps the first commercial rum site to start actively listing sugar content, bravo! Although some are the result of his own testing, most (listed as "0" are based on his reliance on the country of origin's law, and probably not actually tested. Last though, Dave still favors the sweeties and seems to retain a preference for cost and age.

Caveat! According to Russell, he lists content as "0g" exactly if the rum comes from a country that does not allow sugar. Now since we all know that distillers never cheat, that assumption is dubious at best. Thus, the only listings you can fully trust are those that show a range!

Quote:
Russell: "In cases where the country of production forbids adding sugar, such as Barbados or AOC Martinique, the number is listed as 0 g/L (grams per Liter). For countries where such regulations are not in force, the sugar content is a derived measurement and shown as an estimate. "


Addenda 10/3/15: It appears Russell has modified his statement re testing, to:

Quote:
"In cases where the country of production forbids adding sugar, such as Barbados or AOC Martinique, and my measurements confirm no added sugar, the number is listed as an absolute, i.e.: 0 g/L (grams per Liter). For countries where such regulations are not in force, the measured sugar content is shown as a range in 5g/L increments (i.e.: 6-10 g/L). This measurement is derived from tests, with the caveat that the range is a calculated estimate.

Most* of the sugar content data results from measurements diligently made by myself or Rum Gallery's friend Johnny Drejer. *Some of the data on sugar content was performed by the Swedish government and published at www.Systembolaget.se"

This would seem to indicate:

    1. That all the rums where sugar is reported have been tested.
    2. Russell may have tested some of them, but appears to rely on Drejer or ALKO
    3. The number is reported as "0" (exactly) if the country has laws against adding sugar. Otherwise he has reported 5g ranges, eg "6-10".

The last - the dependence on a country's laws - is curious. Since laws are commonly evaded by distillers, I see no reason to extend the benefit of the doubt and deny all sugar ("0g") based on the law, and not on the tests.

In sum, it seems that only those listed as a range, eg "0-5", are reporting the actual test results. To be fair, I would like to report Russell's results but do not want to simply duplicate the Drejer or ALKO results that Russell is apparently reporting. Thus I've emailed this gentleman to ask him to please identify which of the tests are his own, so that he may be included in the Master List based on his own work.



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Note: the preceding were rum sugar tests performed by ALKO, the Swedes and Johnny Drejer, and selected independent testers including Cyril, Pirate, Dawsonh, Mama, and Moi as appear in the Master List only (not here). Caveat: I do not guarantee the accuracy of any test, nor my typing skills. The tests by ALKO and the Swedes can be considered very precise; those by Johnny Drejer are very good estimates. Also appearing are sugar tests performed by Moi, Cyril, the Pirate, dawsonh, Mamajuana and Moi (using Drejer's protocol to their best ability) and as submitted for "The Great Sugar Test". These latter are of course subject to error, so please point out any aberations which the testers will gladly repeat...

Special Note: the ALKO tests show two numbers, eg 1/3. The first is sugar, the second are "extractives" other than sugar. All other listings show sugar as a single value or as a range, eg "0" or "0-5".



Discussion and Flat Ass Bottom Line

First, a big thanks and recognition of both ALKO and Johnny Drejer, particularly Johnny whose hard work is a great gift to all who value pure rum. In the spirit of education I'd like to address a few things...

First, that there are more pure or nearly pure rums than some of you may have expected. It's all too easy to believe that there are so few pure rums, that it's a lost cause and why bother? The truth: there are really quite a few, not quite half of the rums tested!

Second are the surprises. To me the biggest surprises are the Plantations, where sugar is admitted but states that their only intention seems to be to modestly "round" their rums. As the test results indicate, that does not follow with 18 to 20 grams of sugar being frequently used. Think about it. If the intention is "rounding", how is it that almost all their rums get the same amount of sugar? And that much? Spare me.

A second surprise to the market (but not to most of us) is El Dorado - master marketers with "200 year old stills" but also LOTS of sugar, especially with their "premium" oldies! Indeed, we also learn that many of the so-called "super-premiums" are super only in the massive amounts of sugar needed. Think too about that. If these rums are really their best, then why all the sugar? The party-hearty crowd loves sugar in their flavored vodka/rum, but the afficianado who's spending $100 to $200?

You decide.

Other (not) surprises include Don Francisco's Abuelo line, the Dos Maderas sugar bombs, and the very expensive Millonario's and the Presidente offerings, among many others (see list above).

Third are some pleasant surprises: the Brugal's, the Ron Botrans, and yes, the authentic Havana Club offerings. Oh, and except for the extracts of prune and vanilla, even the Ron Matusalem Soleras. I was particularly pleased to see that perhaps the best value of the bunch - the Ron Viejo de Caldas are spot on pure.

Again, thanks to Johnny Drejer and the good guys at ALKO, the Swedes, Cyril, the Pirate, Dawsonh and Mamajuana, whose bravery and transparency serve us all. Up spirits!




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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one CJ. DDL should hang their heads.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting list.

I am wondering what it means when the same rum is listed twice in a row.

Me: I publish all tests; some rums have been tested by several sources.

Is the first one old and then new? And does that mean old measurement, new measurement, or old version of the rum, new version of the rum?

Me: good question. The testers and I try to identify the old ones as possible.


In particular, I'm interested in the ED21, which has a primary measurement of 16, but the next one is 33. Quite a difference, which one really applies?

Me: See above. This one was tested twice. The lower figure appears to be an error. Go with the 33g as this was tested by hydrometer.

I was also quite surprised by Pusser's Blue @20, and 27 in the decanter (!) Big wtf on that.

Me: we all feel the same way; fortunately the good old Blue 40% (and 75%) are fine.

Good to see the ED single barrels were unfutzed with, but at the $65+ they were charging, they didn't help the fans out very much.




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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In answer to your questions Tot...


From Johnny Drejer...


Quote:
"Hi Capn Jimbo,

I cannot give a specific explanation for the difference in measured %abv in the ED21.
One test was done with Hydrometer and the second test was done with the Anton Paar (both pictures attached).

In both cases the rum had been open very recently. Daniel who owns the Anton Paar has sent it in for Calibration, so it will be interesting to see if it still measures the same values. I must admit that I trust the Hydrometer more than the Anton Paar.

Pusser's surprised me. I did not expect to find that amount of sugar in those expressions.

We also did some tests with a rum that had no sugar added. Using cane sugar dissolved into the rum, we found that with 5-10g/L we started to detect the changes to the rum (enhanced existing flavors and less "alcohol" feeling in the mouth), increasing up to 20g/L the flavors were still detectable and the rum now tasted sweet. At 30-45g/L most complex flavors are now gone and the rum is overly sweet.

Cheers,
Johnny


It is notable that our Che had exactly the same impression - even 5 mg was detectible, and the more sugar, the more the rum was masked and overwhelmed by its addition. In his email Johnny was kind enough to actually send me pics of the tests and readings. His own accurate method - the hydrometer - showed the ED21 at 33g. Hope that helps, Tot...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another source as I'm sure we are aware is the Swedish Government's testing. Their official website is :

http://www.systembolaget.se/

While I can't seem to find a way to search for sugar content there they have some sugar contents listed for their rums but not all of them. Some not listed on either source.

Another source is my friend Dave from the Rum gallery who has started to diligently list sugar content. While some results he has taken directly from Drejer he has started doing his own testing also.

His current method:

http://www.rumgallery.com/about-the-rum-gallery/evaluation-method/

All of his latest reviews have sugar content such as:

http://www.rumgallery.com/westerhall-dark.html
http://www.rumgallery.com/dillon-xo-7-ans.html
http://www.rumgallery.com/hamilton-st-lucia-2006-7-2.html
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mama, the ugh CoUNT, has the same alko test list ad the one above and in other threads here.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Hamilton St Lucia rum; from Dave Russell's site.
Anecdotes: Ed Hamilton believes transparency in rum production is a virtue.

HA!

Ed Hamilton is only concerned about the truth when painted into a corner with no other way to slither out.

Good links Mama, I needed a laugh.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

da'rum: You can say that again, and again...



There are at least four of us who fought the fight, and were "liberated" for even questioning the use of sugar. And NOW he believes in transparency?! Not really. I like Dave, but a butt kisser he is, for example regaring da'rum's St. Lucia example Russell, quoting Hamilton:

Quote:
"The molasses used at St Lucia Distillers was sourced from Guyana and contained 65% dissolved sugar, one of the highest sugar contents of any molasses found in the Caribbean. The high sugar content is attributed to the age of the Guyanese sugar mill.”


Age of the mill has nothing to do with it. The processing of cane juice to obtain sugar and the once byproduct of molasses is VERY well known and highly developed. The percent sugar is based on the boil used (of typically 3 boils). First boil or food grade (used by Prichard) comes in at 65-75%, while "blackstrap" (last boil) can be anywhere from 40 to 55%. I'll say it again, the age of the mill, or the length of the Preacher's Pinocchioed probiscus has nothing - nothing! - to do with it. It's worth noting that most of the molasses used in the "Caribbean" is now supplied by Brazil. Arses.

And though I hate to say it, Russell expends as much verbiage on the Pioneer Preacher than he does on the rum, to the point that he even tries to get under his flowing silk robe, to wit:

Quote:
"The Rum Gallery is perhaps the closest current equivalent to Hamilton’s books and his discovery of rums by sailing. Ed has influenced many of us, getting us started in our careers exploring the art of rum. Respect and gratitude, Mr.Hamilton."


C'mon Dave, really now? OTOH, kudo's to Dave for having the cajones to publish sugar levels and - hurrah! - to actually do some of his own testing - something that his hero isn't likely to do anytime soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how much sugar is 25 grams?


Answer: 6 teaspoons in a bottle of rum. That's close to Plantation territory. And please don't forget that as bad as that is, there are some (think ED and the Zee/Pee rums) that are adulterated with nearly double that - 12 teaspoons in a bottle?

My plans now: to add Russell's tests, and the Swedish date (my bad, I forgot). I hope you've also noted just how easy to test your own rums using Drejer's Seales' approved method. In this regard I ordered a set of 3 hydrometers (0-40, 40-70 and 70-100%) for - yup - just $6.95, with case and thermometer (the 0-40 is the one you'll use).


Flat Ass Bottom Line

As I've said many times, it is simply amazing how small the world of rogue rum is. A few individuals can have a great impact which started some years ago with the first real break through - the outing of Z23, then others like Pyrat, Angostura 1919, and Diplomatico. Our mutual suspicions and beliefs were greeted with derision and denial and yes, liberation.

The crytals are out of the bag now though, and it's game on. I believe the Fat (unfrozen) One will join the crusade to out sugar by publishing levels with each review (I'm working on it). For now and here, this post will become the repository for testing, as I will add new rums to the OP, above.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump!


Please note that the Swedish list (reliable) and Dave Russell's (not so much, and very limited insofar as actual tests), have been added to the OP... btw, I now believe this post is the most complete on the net and will be made into a sticky.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's with great sadness that I read that ED21's higher measurement is the likely correct one. I thought that was the, ahem, sweet spot in the line.

I've got a few bottles in reserve, but I don't now think I'll be buying more as they deplete.

Sure, I enjoy drinking it, that hasn't and won't likely change, but if I'm going to spend that money, I have a choice to buy and support something else instead. Ironically, I have the choice to buy output from DDL's own stills from an independent bottler, unadulterated. So that's what's gonna happen.

I had in my mind that making an exception for ED was OK in the sense that their operation produces the pure rums that I love the best. But it isn't really. All it does is tell them "make more of this".

I am all about my Demerara. I use that golden-brown Demerara raw sugar in every recipe that calls for sugar, accepting no substitutes. It goes in my oatmeal. It goes in my aged egg nog. I'll end up visiting DDL pretty soon after the oil price recovers and my work picture strengthens.

But even DDL has to earn the support when it comes to what's in the bottle.

Thanks Jimbo for the extra digging on my behalf.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Black Tot wrote:
It's with great sadness that I read that ED21's higher measurement is the likely correct one. I thought that was the, ahem, sweet spot in the line.

I've got a few bottles in reserve, but I don't now think I'll be buying more as they deplete.

Sure, I enjoy drinking it, that hasn't and won't likely change, but if I'm going to spend that money, I have a choice to buy and support something else instead. Ironically, I have the choice to buy output from DDL's own stills from an independent bottler, unadulterated. So that's what's gonna happen.

I had in my mind that making an exception for ED was OK in the sense that their operation produces the pure rums that I love the best. But it isn't really. All it does is tell them "make more of this".

I am all about my Demerara. I use that golden-brown Demerara raw sugar in every recipe that calls for sugar, accepting no substitutes. It goes in my oatmeal. It goes in my aged egg nog. I'll end up visiting DDL pretty soon after the oil price recovers and my work picture strengthens.

But even DDL has to earn the support when it comes to what's in the bottle.

Thanks Jimbo for the extra digging on my behalf.


For a similar price as the ED21 you can get the Bristol Port Morant 1990 (or for less the 1999 edition). This is the still which is pre-dominant in the Pussers line up. If you buy a bottle of this and you have the Pussers 15 Year Old just try the two against each other. It's like trying a cup of tea/coffee with and without sugar added.

It's very interesting and the best straight comparison I have found thus far
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear ye, hear ye...


This list, although complete for the moment has been superceded by the Compiled List which lists all the rums above - together - in a single alphabetical list. Obviously, this is much more useful

Also - as you now know the Great Rum Test will soon be underway as perhaps 5 or 6 of us now - all with some decent collections will start the People's testing. These tests will be added to the list, and credited to each tester. BTW, it's fine to test a rum that's already been tested as this will indicate how consistent that distiller is...
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